Bing West grew up Irish Catholic in Boston and chose the Marines over law school. He fought in Vietnam and wrote The Village about the Combined Action Program. Mark “Moose” McGrath has read his work for years, and Mark led this conversation with me alongside.
The Combined Action Program
CAP put small Marine units inside Vietnamese villages to live and fight alongside local forces. Bing explains why integrating with a culture and leading from within worked. Mark uses the same principles with clients, and we talk about how they carry into business and teamwork.
Two strategies
We compare the generals. Lewis Walt and Victor Krulak put local support first. General Westmoreland focused on attrition. Bing draws the line from those choices to Iraq and Afghanistan, and to the shift from combat operations toward winning local support.
Decentralized or top-down
We also talk about bureaucracy. Bing weighs how a transformational leader like Elon Musk would fare inside the Pentagon. Decentralized and top-down approaches come up again and again, through Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Bing’s stories make the history personal. The lessons apply to national security and to anyone leading a team inside a larger system.
How close do your leaders work to the people who carry out the plan?
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Written by Ponch Rivera with AI assistance in production. The full conversation is in the player below.


