People build headlines to hijack your attention, flood your emotions and hand your decisions to someone else. Kit Perez brings a counterintelligence lens to that firehose and shows how to keep your own orientation.
Kit’s first move is a question. Ask why someone said it, what feeling it tries to evoke and what action it wants from you. Then debrief it the way an analyst would. Collect what happened from several angles, restore the context, and then probe how and why.
The levers of influence
Kit walks through the small levers that move people. A phrase like “everybody knows” works as a way to bully dissent. An aesthetic edit recasts a subject. Identity fusion turns politics into a personal creed, and then otherwise sharp people let the tribe do their judging. When identity is on the line, orientation moves people more than facts do.
Everyday OPSEC
Counterintelligence belongs to ordinary people too. Your bumper stickers, family decals and posts are a free intelligence feed for anyone who wants to target you. When you trim the signals you broadcast, you shrink the surface others can exploit. Kit also argues that manipulation is neutral, and that intent and constraints decide whether it harms or protects.
Designing for mission command
We get tactical about systems. If systems drive behavior, leaders have to design environments that reward the outcomes they say they value. Mission command emerges only when trust, clarity, competence and moral boundaries are present. Leaders define the mission, draw the box and its constraints, and let teams solve inside the box, even when the team picks a path the leader would not pick. We also talk about Gray Cell Protocols, Kit’s framework, which starts with orientation and creates those conditions. All of this takes inner work from leaders, and it means hiring people who thrive with autonomy.
Which “everybody knows” line sets off your alarm?
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Written by Ponch Rivera with AI assistance in production. The full conversation is in the player below.


