Retired Air Force Colonel Thomas “Buzz” Rempfer wrote Unyielding: Marathons Against Illegal Mandates. Matthew “Whiz” Buckley joined me as co-host, and we asked Buzz what the military’s anthrax vaccine program taught him about orders and consent.
The anthrax vaccine program
Buzz describes the quality control problems he says he uncovered while investigating the anthrax vaccine program. He walks through the legal fights and the adverse reactions that service members reported.
Parallels to COVID-19
Buzz and Whiz draw parallels to the COVID-19 vaccine mandates. They trace the origins of the Emergency Use Authorization law and what it means for individual rights. The conversation includes accounts from service members who felt pressure to comply.
Lawful orders
All three of us come from fighter aviation and operational risk management. We talk about how Boyd’s OODA loop shaped the way we look at decisions, and why lawful orders and informed consent matter inside a chain of command.
Whiz first joined me in Episode 2 (2024).
This episode is not medical or legal advice. The claims about the vaccine programs are Buzz’s own account.
What would you do with an order you believed was unlawful?
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