I put this short episode together as a primer for my conversation with Dr. Robert Malone about PsyWar. It pulls clips from past No Way Out guests who have thought hard about psychological and fifth-generation warfare.
The voices
You will hear David Kilcullen, James Giordano, Adrian Bejan and James Gimian, with Steve McCrone as well. Each brings a different angle on liminal warfare, information dominance and cognitive manipulation.
The themes
Fifth-generation warfare is fought in the mind, with information as the main weapon. Manipulation shows up in warfare, in leadership and in everyday decisions. We touch on surveillance capitalism and how large technology companies use data to influence behavior. Liminal warfare works in the spaces between chaos and complexity, and between complexity and order.
The Art of War
Sun Tzu’s text still matters in a volatile world, and the clips show why.
For us, all of this is about orientation. The side that shapes what the other side perceives gains the advantage.
The full conversation with Dr. Malone is Episode 81 (2024).
Which of these voices would you want to hear more from?
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